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    Why is being gay wrong?

    created by jenns22 4004 days 19 hours 46 minutes ago

    Category: World

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    WOW. I have so many things I want to say, but at the same time I don't feel like I have to convince anyone on what I believe. I very much disagree with many of the comments posted, but that's ok. It's great that everyone has a different believe or opinon. And it's just that! Belief in your desired religion or opinion based off whatever facts you gather.

    I am a very peace oriented person so I just hope that we can be tolerant of whatever people are. We are all here on this earth to live life and survive. Can't we just do so?

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    I don't think being gay is wrong at all. It is the person's choice to decide who they want to love, to be with, and to spend their life with. We shouldn't punish those who love somebody in a way we can never love that person.
    I know I am bisexual, and a couple of my friends are, and sometimes they get made fun of because of that. It irritates me so bad because it is our choice, not theirs. Also as long as we aren't hitting on them or anything then they shouldn't worry about the people we are with, etc...

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    I completely agree with adamoglebe16. I am from a very similar background: straight girl, no significantly religious background and believe that God accepts people for who they are.

    It isn't even a choice. People don't choose to like people of the same gender, it's just how they are. There is no way to control the true feelings of people because, after all, we are only human.

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    WOW!!!
    I totally agree with cheerldr and angelicdevl.
    You said that nobody knows what God thinks. Yes they do. Unless you are an atheist, you probably believe that prophets existed. How do you explain their existence? They knew what God wanted them to do.
    Have you ever read the Bible? Yes, it was written by men, but God dictated what to write. Thats why it is called "God's Word." Thats how Moses wrote the 10 commandmetns. God dictated and he wrote. It's possible.
    Anyhow, don't you think that if God thought well of gay, He would have created a gay couple in the garden of Eden? Like Adam and another Adam? But God thought through it all, and found that it is necessary for 1 leader-a strong and demanding man to be together with a fragile, caring, emotional, helpless being-a woman.
    Think about this--if a really strong, mean, talkative man was "married" to another strong, mean, talkative man, what would happen? Men are not emotional (barely), so they would constantly pick fights, wouldn't listen to each other and there would be many other problems. If that same man was married to a woman, that woman would probably forgive him, because she is fragile and emotional. If 2 women were together, they would never reach anything.
    God does everything for the best, and don't argue with that.
    That's why He's God. He loves and cares for everyone, even the gay. If they repent and turn away from their sin, God would be more than welcome to forgive. Have you ever read the story of the prodigal son? Read it. It's located in Luke chapter 15. Why do you think that Man acted that way toward the bad, sinning son?
    About them degrading the meaning of marriage, well, like cheerldr said, thats already been done through "normal" people divorcing.

    I am really sorry if I offended anyone. Please don't hold a grudge against me!(you too, adamoglebe16).
    :)

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    Reach 4 the stars I don’t know if you are a guy or girl but either way even you should be offended by what you wrote. Either you are a “strong, mean, demanding man” or “a fragile, caring, emotional, helpless being- a woman” Have you ever heard that some gay guys are a little more feminine than others and that they find more masculine partners? It’s the same with lesbians. Have you ever seen a woman that was mean and demanding? I have. So what kind of man is she with? Isn’t she going against God by playing the “leader” role that god said was for men only?
    “Men are not emotional (barely), so they would constantly pick fights, wouldn't listen to each other and there would be many other problems. If that same man was married to a woman, that woman would probably forgive him, because she is fragile and emotional. If 2 women were together, they would never reach anything.”
    There are these two things called ESTROGEN and TESTOSTERONE and they sort of determine how feminine (emotional) or masculine (mean) you are. So saying that men are never emotional is the most ignorant thing I’ve ever heard. It all depends on his hormones, but I guess that’s another thing those devil scientists are lying about. Also if a guy is NEVER emotional then things wouldn’t make him mad….so why would he constantly pick fights? Can you contradict yourself some more?
    First you’re saying that in a hetero marriage the man would yell, fight, not listen, not care and (we can assume) beat his wife. And his “fragile, emotional, helpless” wife would take it. I’m sure God thinks that’s right. Second you said that with two women together they would never reach anything. Well of course how could two worthless helpless emotional fragile beings do anything? Especially when there are two of them? How did any woman ever do anything? Geez I’m so helpless and emotional I can barely understand how I’m typing. Man why do I go to school with all those menfolk? Why do I work with them big mean demanding men? Surely I’m not equal to them because I’m so helpless and emotional. I wish I weren’t so offended by your post…I guess its cause I’m so fragile.

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    Adamoglebe16 nice post! Firstly, to say that the bible is the word of god in my opinion is a little hard to believe. Even biblical scholars are having a hard time translating the old testament. Some say there were even three different versions written and say that the translations of that time were actually to the beliefs of that time. This is 2400 years ago. I'm sorry but if I, no anybody today were to say that god was talking to them, they would be deemed as crazy and live out their life in a mental institution. Religion is a way for people to controll a bigger population and it was created by men. Being homosexual is human nature. As a whole there are more heterosexual people because our species must survive but we all have homosexual tendencies(some more than others) and who can say that that is bad. To agree or disagree with it is ok but to say that is bad... well are you that perfect to judge others???

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    cheerldr08, I have a question for you (and for any of you other devout Christians).

    Can you prove that the Bible is God's word? Where in there does it say "The Bible.....by God" Because if you find it, please let me know. The Bible may be what God has actually spoken to men, or it may not. However, the Bible was written by men. Human beings. As we have discovered, human beings make mistakes. They are not perfect. Human beings have a tendency to twist things to match their beliefs. Ultimately it is the beliefs of the more powerful people that get spread around and become "accepted views". That is why we are not all Wiccans (and there is NOTHING wrong with Wiccans, let me tell you). The Christians conquered the other religions. I have gone off-topic, though.

    Homosexuality is not wrong. One of my BEST friends is gay. That does not make him an evil monster of a person. I think, actually, that him admitting he's gay is one of the biggest things someone can do. Admitting to an unaccepting world that you don't fit their ideals takes guts. It also means he has come to grips with who he is as a person. Probably before any of us have. I still don't know who I am, my true identity and all. He has taken a huge step to find that out.

    If you don't like gays, don't look at them. Don't watch them on the streets and stare at them like a freak show. You don't have to look at someone with a gouged nose-piercing or a grossly overweight woman. You don't have to look at a gay couple enjoying the same liberties that a straight couple would enjoy without catching a second glance. Why shouldn't gays get married? Really? What they do in their home has no effect on the rest of our lives. Why shouldn't they be able to adopt a child? Just because someone is raised around gay people does not mean they are not able to make that decision for themselves. Homosexuals DESERVE the same rights.

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    I don't think that it is wrong. Personally my bestfriend is a lesbian and I have no problem with it. I have many gay friends and I get along with him the same as anyone else. I believe if someone is attracted to the same sex than they are. They really can't help that. And I know that because I have had a deep discusion with one of my gay guy friends about it and how he tried to date girls and tried to be attracted to them but just wasn't. He is much happier now that he admits to himself that he likes guys. But I think it's just who a person is. I really don't think that sexual abuse has anything to do with. I've dealt with stuff like that and I like guys. I guess it could depend on the age though. But I believe there is nothing wrong with gays and I believe they are just like straight people.

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    I am heterosexual but I've never had anything against gay people. My best friend is gay and I think he is the most amazing guy I've ever met. When I talk to him I get all the answers I need. I am talking to a guy and he tells me everything I need to know about a guy, and yet he thinks like a girl. He is like my best girlfriend who will never get jealous of anything. He will never talk behind my back and even if it isn't my day, he will still tell me "hun, you look gorgeous" and he will mean it.

    Girls often tend to be jealous of each other. But it is different with guys. I don't know why some people are against gays and lesbians. I think there is nothing wrong with them and they are as normal as every other person is. I believe that your own sexuality should not be an object of judgment by others.

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    Hold on, reach 4 the stars.

    "Anyhow, don't you think that if God thought well of gay, He would have created a gay couple in the garden of Eden? Like Adam and another Adam? But God thought through it all, and found that it is necessary for 1 leader-a strong and demanding man to be together with a fragile, caring, emotional, helpless being-a woman."

    Considering that Adam and Eve were the first two human beings on the Earth, have you ever considered that it was NECESSARY for God to create them as a man and a woman? Perhaps for the purpose of procreation. I'm sure that God wanted more than two of his best creations walking around on his world. And if you think for a second that all men are strong and demanding and all woman are passive and "helpless", you are VERY sadly mistaken. Adam and Eve were NOT created for Adam to bully Eve around.

    "Think about this--if a really strong, mean, talkative man was "married" to another strong, mean, talkative man, what would happen? Men are not emotional (barely), so they would constantly pick fights, wouldn't listen to each other and there would be many other problems. If that same man was married to a woman, that woman would probably forgive him, because she is fragile and emotional. If 2 women were together, they would never reach anything."

    You have created these stereotypes of domineering, agressive men and these poor breakable women. Are you truly that ignorant? Have you heard of all of the strong, hardy women who have risked everything to do what they believe is right? Harriet Beecher Stowe ring a bell? I know later you have apologized for offending anyone, but I cannot let this one slide. I am DEEPLY offended by that connotation that all women are meek and need a man's protection. And more, you suggest that women will always forgive a man's sins. I would think that we have more brains in our head than that. As I have mentioned earlier, as well, one of my best friends is gay. And he is most certainly not domineering and agressive. In fact, I know very males who are like that. And the ones I can think of, I don't know well enough to judge. My own boyfriend is not agressive, nor does he try to control me. And if he ever did, I definitely wouldn't just lay down and take it! I don't just forgive him and let him get away with it. I fight back. And you should, too.

    I will not hold a grudge against you for being misinformed. But I would strongly suggest that you observe people a little more closely.

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    I was about to give up because many of you need to educate yourselves prior to posting in order to save yourself some integrity and realize your ignorance.

    Homosexuality is not wrong. It is wrong according to you...whoever stated this in the first place. You labeled it as wrong, you reiterated the stigmas that defy a sense of society normalcy. There is no right or wrong; there is a construction of right and wrong.

    A homosexual is not more of a sinner than anybody else, nor is he or she wrong according to Catholic belief. When a person acts upon a homosexual desire, then this is considered to be sinful...as any sexual act outside of wedlock.

    Not sure exactly what was quoted about homosexuality and marriage, but traditionally marriage is a covenant between a man and a woman and within this covenant is a promise to reproduce. Two persons of the same sex biologically cannot do this. However, a homosexual bond or gay marriage under a different term does not defy the sanctity or marriage. This continues to be a struggle because there really is not a separation between church and state and legally the rights and benefits would be not be appropriated to a gay couple as a they are to a married couple because their civil union is not "marriage"

    The Bible was written by man, but INSPIRED by God. No inspiration = no Bible. Note also that oral tradition is referred-not solely the written Bible.

    Romeo and Juliet was a PLAY---and not just about romance. There is speculation that Shakespeare was a homosexual.

    What does "blacks and whites can marry" have anything to do with gay marriage? Is this supposed to be supportive of something? I see it as completely irrelevant in this context.

    Your question should not be directed as why is being gay wrong...society says it is. Just because you have a friend who is gay does not mean you can tokenize him for the whole subculture. I don't know where most of you are from, but homosexuality is not that taboo in most cities.

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    There is absolutely nothing wrong with being gay. Im pretty sure God never said anything about hating ones neighbor...nor anything about pushing your religion on someone else. I'm Roman Catholic and I can tell you right now that NOWHERE in the bible does it say to alienate a group of people because of their personal preference. AND...i believe the bible also says to honor the sabbath, but i dont see every christian going to church each week, and i CERTAINLY dont see them always honoring their father and mother. and so..the bible is definitely not a valid argument for why homosexuality is wrong. find a different excuse.

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    I have a scripture to add to yours, cheerldr08.
    Romans 1:27. "In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with LUST for one another. Men committed INDECENT acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their PERVERSION." The cap words are key that homosexuality is a sin. Since when did lust and perversion become right.

    Also I saw a couple posts about this so I'll give my opinion. I do not hate or dislike gay people. I have MANY friends who are gay. I do not condone their relationships, however I do not dismiss them as people just because they are gay.

    *reach for the stars*, "Anyhow, don't you think that if God thought well of gay, He would have created a gay couple in the garden of Eden?" I couldn't have said it better than you!!!! Good job!!

    I do not believe that God "created" gay people. Yes God created us all but he did not purpose any one to be gay. Where have you seen in the Bible that God applauds homosexuality??? Please tell me and then I will retract my previous statements. Yes God loves us all no matter what but that doesn't mean that He dismisses our sins. He expects us to repent!!!

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    Hmmm first I want to commend you on starting this forum topic. Many people feel uncomfortable talking about this type of thing (and I don't mean every feels that way). second about gay people being born that way I don't believe that at all. I believe this major transition happens around your teen and college years because people are trying new things and experimenting (not everyone). And even though i am a believer in god I have friends that are gay and bi and even though god says it's wrong I don't tell them I belive it's an abomination cause to me it's not. It's the way someone turns out to be (im not saying that as a bad thing). So the question at hand was why is being gay wrong? I say that question can be answered depending on peoples beliefs. If you talk to someone like a pastor theyre gonna say the bible says being gay is wrong. But if you talk to someone who is all for gay people your answer's gonna be it's not wrong at all. But personally I don't believe it's wrong at all. I believe thats who you are and you can't change how you feel about someone.