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I'm with you.

I have no issue with scholarships being available to blacks, asians, whatever. It's just kind of obnoxious never to have anything offered to you because you don't fit into some category that is supposedly "disadvantaged."

Most poor people in America happen to be white. You'd think they wouldn't get lost in the shuffle just because historically, most of the rich and powerful in America were white too.

This is a great forum topic, Sheila! Well done. Anyway, I would have to say that if one can give a scholarship to an individual because that person is native American, black, Asian, etc. then why not one for Caucasians? I understand that when colleges first opened they were only available to white males, but alot has changed in over 500 years, especially in the United States. While I disagree with Hamiltc that most poor people in America are white, I do believe that the numbers balance out, and the poor white kid should not have LESS of a chance to go to college than the poor Hispanic or black kid.

Well, I'm asian and I agree with ya. It is unfair and should be made to Caucasians too.

Reddevil - I don't actually have a source on hand for my claim, so I probably should not have made it, but I have read it somewhere and it make sense because a plurality of people in America are white and most of them are not rich.

It may be true that certain other ethnic groups have a higher percentage of families living in poverty, but in terms of raw numbers - I'd think whites would still have the most poor.

Jesse Jackson made the claim in this piece (not that I agree with everything in this article)

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4155/is_20070227/ai_n18635956

Hamiltc, this is one of the reasons I love reading your posts. You never take anything personally, and you attempt to defend yourself. Thanks for that. In raw numbers, you may be right, but I live in the southwest, so we probably just have different perspectives. When I lived in PA, most of the people were white and poor, so yeh... I see what you're saying. Thanks again!

Hamiltmc is actually right, though reddevil. Majority of those on welfare are white.
- http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,974473,00.html

Anyways, I looked up Caucasian scholarships and found a few. Many of the historically black colleges offer scholarships for Caucasians in order to reverse segregation. I don't think there are quotas or affirmative action, though.

There are very few, though:
http://www.nextstudent.com/directory-of-scholarships/Racial/0004/Racial-Caucasian-scholarships.aspx

Also, I found this article interesting:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/auntie/03/114.html

It's a Democrat explaining why there aren't really many scholarships labeled "Caucasian Scholarships." She proposes that it's because many of the scholarships are tailored to whites to begin with:

- Fraternities/Sororities
- Legacy students (students whose parents have attended the college/work there)
- Scholarships tailored to graduates from majority white schools
- Church scholarships
- Work scholarships

Of course, they don't exclude other races, but majority of those who qualify are Caucasian.

Good luck in your search for scholarships, Sheila. I've always found that the financial aid department can really help you find ones that you'll qualify for.

Well, thanks for looking out angelicdevil. I did happen to take a glance at those websites, and unfortunately the scholarships offered were for specific schools in a faraway distant land to me...I do appreciate that though! Also, for those interested, yes there are more poor white people in the US, but a higher percentage of poor black people (when compared to their own race). Still, I guess I just feel like people are people and anyone who comes from a poor background and wants to make something better of themselves, for themselves as well as their families, should be able to. Whether or not someone wants to live in the ghettos/projects should be a choice. Maybe I see things the way I do because I grew up poorer and have been exposed to many things that people "on the outside looking in" have never seen. People think that it doesn't happen to white people too...that's all I was trying to say. I'll get through school one way or another, even if I do have to take out a bunch of loans...at least I'll be fortunate enough to be able to pay them back, while providing a decent life for my kids. :-)

I know there is money out there enough for all of us we just need to find it. It shouldn't go by what color, race, creed, religion, or what ever else makes us diffreent from each other... But thats the system and if I have learned one thing so far in y life it's you have to work the system to get what you need or where you want to be. Your a woman if I was a woman I would use that to my advantage to the fullest extent I could. Get your degree then do what you can to change the system from the inside. This is about the only way I now to get things done. I have been lucky enough to have a Aid counselor that has been a big help. Good luck and hope you find what you need. And Keep working the system.

Mike

I was just talking about this other day. This makes me so mad. I do not understand why there are so many scholarships out there for "minorities" but not that many for Caucasians.

I do understand that they want to make things even and fair, but how fair is it if you are white and poor? White + poor = not a very good recipe to have funding for school.

There shouldn't be any discrimination of race when it comes to anything. Fair is fair. They shouldn't look at gender, religion, color, anything that differentiates us from one another physically. Things should be based on merit and need, nothing else.

Personally, I don't think scholarships should be based on what your ethnicity is. Many people I know aren't from one particular ethnic group, so is it okay for someone to be able to apply for an african american scholarship as well as a Korean scholarship for example? For those that have a desire and the need to get an education, it does not seem fair.

No one should feel left out, no matter your background. I understand where your are coming from and I wish education was more on a UNITED front.

Sheilla - awesome post! I was looking for scholarships for engineering students, and there were quite afew that I was well-qualified for, except for one factor, which was my race. Glad you have the guts to sorta stir the pot, so to speak, and still putting your viewpoint tactfully.

I've always had a problem with ANYthing for "all black", "all white", "all 'insert race here'". Integrate, people (and no, not talking math here)

I'm half African American and half Caucasian. I totally agree with the fact that there shouldn't be any controversy surrounding whites-only scholarships, but i do know why it exists. In the US, whites have always been given the opportunity to prosper, while minorities such as African Americans, Hispanics, and Asians have constantly been discriminated against. What's happening today with the abundance in minority scholarships is known as reverse-discrimination. Because minorities have been constantly put down, today, they are being offered more because they haven't always had the opportunity to prosper. And also, though I agree that the majority of low-income and homeless people in the US are Caucasian, Caucasian people are also the majority of people who go to college. If you look up almost any college, unless it's specially formulated for minorities, usually more than 70% of the college population is Caucasian.

I do not think that there should be any controversy surrounding Whites-Only scholarships. There should be scholarships for minorities as well as whites only. I just feel as if it was important to explain why it was that way.

I actually searched white-only scholarships on google too, after my friend told me that the Gates Millennium Scholarship was rascist.

The US is trying to provide all the opportunities to minorities that they missed out on in the past, that Caucasians have always had the opportunity to have.

I am totally in agreeance with this foram. I am getting back into collage after 4 years in the army. It is AWFUL to find sholerships out there for the caucasian person. To say that the majority in collage are cacasian may be true but how many are in debt up to there ears? Just a question

We should all be treated fairly

I actually submitted a $1000.00 scholarship that specified: This scholarship must go to a white american born male who is a junior or above with a cum of 3.5 or above.

Arizona State University balked and tried to get me change the criteria---but I refused and they gave it a white american as I specified. I told them "either give according to my specifications or return the money"

As a Black American I think it is OK to have a Caucasian only scholarship. What irritates me is that after hundreds of years of everyone else being shitted on, I'm hearing how suddenly now it's time to play fair?!?!?! Ain't that a BITCH?

Minorities have been given a break because of all the shit we have been through over the years. These things were done to level the playing field for others to catch up and possibly get ahead in life.

I agree with you-- The US is not the holy place that grade school history tells us about. We stole land from the Native Americans and we have persecuted Blacks, Hispanics, Italians (remember Sacco and Vanzetti), Irish, Muslims, Jews, Asians Catholics, Women---you name it. In the early 1900s there were signs: "Irish need not apply", "Irish not served" and even when I was in grade school (1960's) there was still very obvious persecution of Jews, Blacks and Hispanics. Today the target of choice seems to be Muslims and notice who is persecuting them: WASP conservatives.

Catholics were terribly persecuted during the early years of the US. For the first 100 years, it was illegal to have a catholic church in towns.

Affirmative action was established by JFKs executive order 10925 in 1961--- that was 50 years or two generations ago. At what point do we say "We have made up for past wrongs and it is time to end this program for Blacks" Is it after 3 generations? 4? Italians, Irish, Jews are now mainstream and no longer are persecuted systemically. Do you think AA for Blacks should go on forever?

I have to admit, I did get some enjoyment tweaking the noses of the whiny liberals over at Arizona State University when they realized I had offered a "white male, high cum" only scholarship.

Hi,

Actually I sponsor a scholarship at Arizona State University College of engineering . It is in the name of my father, Henry M Schene.

I have only funded it two years, but the first year I specified white american born males only with 3.5 cumulative and junior standing. The second year, I just specified Junior and 3.5 GPA or better (weeds or the poor students and first and second year who are not really sure they want to be engineers)

When the stock market starts performing again, I'll starting funding it a again.

I was very frustrated while in school because white kids could not get many scholarships---I was poor and people assumed my sister and I were well off because we were white. We were not well off. We had to raise a real stink with the financial aid office to actually get money.

The problem is ASU will not admit I required it to go to whites us born males: I got into a dispute with the scholarship committee and refused to reclassify the scholarship and gave them an ultimatum--give the scholarship based on the criteria I specified or return my money..so quietly, they did did what I asked but still said "we can't base it on race"

@cschene - You ask "At what point do we say 'We have made up for past wrongs and it is time to end this program for Blacks' Is it after 3 generations? 4? Italians, Irish, Jews are now mainstream and no longer are persecuted systemically. Do you think AA for Blacks should go on forever?"

Consider this - from 1619 (when 1st Blacks were forced to come here) until 1961 (when AA was established) people who were other than White (eg. Blacks, Native Americans, Chinese, Latinos, etc.) have endured much pain because of the color of their skin. I guess 50 years of AA should fix it all. **bit of sarcasm here**

I find irony in the fact that we're all supposed to play fair NOW.

Forgot to add: I have mentioned in previous forums that I don't think affirmative action is still necessary, and I'm saying it again here. But I think that all the complaining about it doesn't help. It's like saying "OK we gave you something, get over it."