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    Religion and Homosexuality

    created by DirtyDeeds 1356 days 7 hours 47 minutes ago

    Category: Religion

    Religion and Homosexuality

    There is an article in the paper today about the LDS church and its stand on both gay rights and church protections.


    Read more here:

    http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/01/27/on-discrimination-the-mormon-church-gives-and-takes-away/?_r=0

    Firstly, I must admit that this article feels a bit one sided and going in the direction against the church from the get-go, but I think it gets the point across about what is occurring.

    That said, taken at face value, is it fair that an employer, even if they are affiliated by a church, be able to legally discriminate against things like sexual preference? Remember, we are not always talking about a small church office when it comes to church affiliated employment, there are plenty of distribution warehouses etc that are owned by churches. Churches do receive certain tax exemptions because they are religious institutions, so I wonder if it is fair for them to be so non inclusive.

    So I ask you CollegeNET...

    1) Do you think churches should have the right to maintain any position they wish about issues such as homosexuality? Even when society around them recognizes homosexuality as an acceptable way of life from both a cultural and a governmental stand point?

    2) Do you think the same is true when it comes to church affiliated workplaces?

    3) Do you think churches should maintain their current tax statuses if they choose to discriminate against a particular group?

    4) Is it ok for any church to discriminate against the group of their choosing? Such as by race or gender? Or is this a topic that is special to homosexuality?

    Re: Religion and Homosexuality

    1) Do you think churches should have the right to maintain any position they wish about issues such as homosexuality? Even when society around them recognizes homosexuality as an acceptable way of life from both a cultural and a governmental stand point?

    They can & do. A person's & an organization's beliefs are their own - how they can or should be acting upon those beliefs is the issue at hand.

    What is being complained about so often by the religious is the verbal opposition/criticism they receive - amusingly dubbed "persecution"/"war on religion" in many religious circles. They continue to fail to see that their "freedom of religion" does not include a "freedom to impose only their religion". They want unconditional tolerance for their bigoted & hypocritical intolerance. People present criticism, harsh criticism even, or a few trolls get venomous & so many Christians cry "persecution". People want the same legal benefits & status as others (i.e. marriage), & again it's "persecution". People want a separation of church & state, a religiously impartial gov., & actual fact to be taught as fact, & yet again it's persecution. Yes, it's persecution if people don't want to be bound by Christian morals. It's persecution if the government treats homosexual couples the same as heterosexual couples. Oh, there's so much persecution of Christians in a country with +75% Christian population where Christians hold so many positions of power.

    2) Do you think the same is true when it comes to church affiliated workplaces?

    Yes in the legal sense if it's a non-profit, but it says quite a bit about any church-affiliated workplace that can't see human beings as human beings first & give them the same legal benefits if not moral acceptance. In the ethical sense, discriminating against LGBT's is about the same as discriminating upon the basis of race as the article claimed (both are in-born, natural conditions that have absolutely zero effect on a person's character) though much of society might not see it as so.

    3) Do you think churches should maintain their current tax statuses if they choose to discriminate against a particular group?

    Unless they're actually doing mostly non-profit work; they shouldn't be getting any tax exemptions at all.

    4) Is it ok for any church to discriminate against the group of their choosing? Such as by race or gender? Or is this a topic that is special to homosexuality?

    The only difference is that which is perceived by..

    Re: Religion and Homosexuality

    (Cont) - society. The current religious opposition to homosexuality now looks, sounds, & makes as much sense as the opposition to gender & racial equality that existed in our history. A whole lot of blind bigotry & traditional nonsense backed with a smidgen of poorly constructed "evidence".

    Is it ok? Depends on who one asks. To me? No, for the reasons I've listed above & more. To many of religious? Yes, because their personal preference, holy book, leadership, &/or tradition says so.

    I'm a believer that people should be treated the same in general. Human beings are human beings first & foremost. Even if many of the religious don't morally/personally agree with the efficacy of homosexuality, they at least ought be required to treat LGBT's the same legally. I strongly disagree & dislike the members of the Westboro Baptist Church, however I'm not anywhere near inclined to demand that they be stripped of their right to free speech, marry, to be served by businesses, etc., however despicable & nonsensical it may be.

    LGBT's have the right to be treated as full human beings worthy of being served by businesses, choosing their relationships & receiving the benefits every other couple gets, & receiving the full benefits of their employment even if the many of the religious are so inclined to judge them or condemn their lifestyle based upon their sexual preferences as opposed to their actual character & actions.

    Re: Religion and Homosexuality

    I believe that homosexuality shouldn't even be considered an issue. One's sexuality has nothing to do with the next person. The way one chooses to live their life, as long as they're not hurting anyone, is nobody else's business. This is the overall society's opinion, and that's why I'm happy that things are going up. But prejudice still will always occur, and for that, I'll look at religion for a moment. I am not a very religious person, but I do believe in God. I just don't personally believe in a book "passed down" for thousands of years that by some magical chance has not once been altered or changed. I also don't necessarily believe in a story that has no proof of being true. Now, I'm not one of those people who only believes what they see, but the Bible and all that's in it is only a way for people to live that have no other method of purpose. This may sound harsh, but it is my opinion. I do think that everyone has the right to their own beliefs, and that's why, the overall purpose of this post is to convey the message that if one's belief is IN homosexuality, the Church should not be prejudice. As the BIBLE supposedly state, we are all God's people, so in that case, being prejudice against ANYONE is also a sin. Amen!