It's a very sad world that we live in: A government would plan and kill thousands of their own civilians in order to envade other countries. I don't know how many of you have seen the documentary, "LOOSE CHANGE". If you haven't , you are in the dark. It provides all of the facts and documents that actually reveal that the U.S. Government planned and orchestrated September 11th. They did a great job placing fear into our hearts and souls. They made many of us upset and angry at innocent countries. The part II is coming out in theaters in Jan. You can viw the documentary on You Tube. Here's the video:

Be ready to asorb all of the facts, it WILL BLOW YOUR MIND!!!!


Full length version:http://youtube.com/watch?v=7E3oIbO0AWE

I no longer trust our government. They would easily sacrafice our lives, in the name of money, oil, and ultimate power.

I was only 12.
I don't remember what it all meant.

It's hard to believe how easily people buy into these documentary con jobs.

The US Government was not behind 9-11. It would be a good idea not to share these conspiracy theories with people you meet at college, because you never know who lost a loved one and would take great offense at the notion.

By the way, if the US Government was able to pull off 9-11 - how come they couldn't just plant WMD's in post-war Iraq? You'd think that would be a no-brainer.

Or how come they don't make sure documentaries exposing their deep dark secrets are never made, distributed, etc.?

The answer is simple: because it's all bullshOt.

That's exactly why they don't exert any energy to stop such documentaries from being let out.. because there are week minded people that easily feed into the bulls*** that the media feeds you! It's alright to have your own opinions, but it's bordeline-- naiveness. The truth is there for everyone to see.

THE FAMILY MEMBERS of all of the hurt and killed people are the ones that are going after the governmet. There are many unanswered questions about the planes crashes.

There were people who called home that weren't who they said they were. (Parents know their children's voices, and many of the poeple who called their loved ones weren't who they said they were)

You have NO basis to comment, if you haven't at least watched a few minutes of the doc. Watch it, then post your rebuttals. Try and see if you can offer explinations for just a few of the scientifically proven LIES!!!!!

I have heard this theory. If its true, 911 is just an excuse for us to send all of our troops to Iraq and all of our loved ones are risking their lives for a false cause.

I, personally, don't believe it. I agree with hamiltmc that the government was NOT behind 911. It is just another conspiracy theory that someone thought of. I watched a video about this conspiracy theory on the history channel and yes it COULD have happened but I really think that it is just a theory.

I, however, will watch the video on youtube and research this subject and if I change my mind on the subject I will post again.

If it is true, I think it is wrong that our government would risk all of our loved ones lives for a false cause. Our government would have put fear in everyone's hearts when it was really not necessary. I will definetely look into in more detail and respond again.

I know so many people out there want to see our American government as a heartless, murdering, theifing monster but I don't agree in any way.

As someone who's brother is in the military I find trashy documents such as this offensive. Although he is currently stationed here in America, after he gets married in February, he will be moved to California to receive traning in combat weather. There is a high deployment rate from the base at which he is stationed, which means he very well could end up doing a tour of duty in Iraq. What really bugs me is that people can honestly and rather firmly espouse stuff like this. I am so glad he is out there defending people so they can believe this stuff.

Oh wow, the put options for American Airlines jumped the day before Sept. 11th. Makes so much sense that would happen, you know, because people out there new that the governemtn was about to completely destroy a large industry, a global industry at that. Besides, it not like out government doesn't depend on the success of our market. That makes too much sense. Here in America we like not only screwing small business owners over, but also the big ones too. Just needed to kill almost 2000 people, so they might as well use their money to boost up those numbers, right?

Wrong. If you all remember correctly, the airline industry almost completely collapsed after September 11th. Currently the airline industry is worth US$163.8 billion, employing 544,460 domestic employees. This seems like a rather large industry for the government to run into the ground don't you think. And American and United would't want to throw away billions of dollars of revenue and be the tools in murder. It doesn't make business sense.

Let it also be known that the New York Stock Exchange, the American Stock Exchange and NASDAQ remained closed until Sept. 17th, and when they did reopen, the stock market fell 7.1% (684 points). U.S. Stocks lost $1.2 trillion in the week after it reopened. Yes exactly what our goverment wanted.

And put option claims like this have been completely debunked. All the put options that were purchased on Sept. 10 from American has been traced back to a trade options newsletter sent out to those who owned stocks, and this letter talked about the possible falling prices.

My dad canceled his flight the next day, he was supposed to be in new York. I guess Ms. Rice must have called him. She's on our speed dial here in Chicago.

And next point, 14 planes guarding the entire US? Ridiculous. For your information, there are currently almost 1800 fighter jets owned by the U.S. Fourteen my rear end. (http://www.gunslot.com/blog/top-active-united-states-military-fighter-jets) And this is just an estimate.

I've sat here and listened to this. Here is some information from the other side.

http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/

There is so much information presented here that doesn't even fit the molds of common sense. I know all of us here on Cnet have that. Fourteen jets?! With something like 260 million people living here? Come on.

And even if they weren't stationed in D.C., those things can fly at mach speeds in excess of mach 2. It wouldn't take long for them to get there.

oh, and Iraq and Iran are very innocent countries. Very innocent. The people maybe, but the regimes? Absolutely not. I'll leave with this.

We didn't need a war to invade Iraq, the numbers are in front of your face, and have been reported and supported by numerous sources. Had America not stepped in and taken Hussein down by force, the "regime could easily have resumed killing at its historic rate of 15,000 to 20,000 deaths a year". Hundreds of thousands of peopel were murdered over in Iraq and Iran. This BS that the government concocted the sept. 11th attacks to invade "innocent countries" is disgusting.

Oh yeah, I bet Bush did it so he could see his support percentage rise... yeah that makes sense.

I guess I have officially titled myself as the republican war-mongerer here in Cnet... That's gonna kill me when it comes time to vote. No biggie. I'll fix the election ;)

Our government, like many other governments, is not perfect and has an element of corruption, but these conspiracy theories are so out there on the grassy knoll crack me up (and not in a ha-ha type of way).

Doesn't seem very productive to me, but alas, one of the beauties of this country is being able to have freedom of speech. I feel these type of documentaries are all hype and in my (not so) humble opinion are out there to garner attention and try to gain notoriety using a horrendous tragedy as their springboard.

Personally, I don't even think our government is capable of such a massive scheme and it's not logical that they'd do it anyway...just my .02.

Yea, I find these conspiracy theories amusing, but yet again, we do not really know what is really going on. I myself was exposed to some rather disturbing things when I was in Iraq as far as our government goes. I won't go to much into detail, but there are some fishy things that occur at times. But I do think that 9/11 being planned by the government being a little too extreme...or is it?

I don't know what to say about this issue. I know for sure that the government had, have and has been hiding things from us. So, I don't know what to believe anymore. My husband is in the military so I don't know. All I want to do is just live long enough to see my kids grow.

It's one thing to have a healthy distrust of the government. It's another thing to harbor irrational fears and buy into whacko conspiracies to explain things that need no explanation.

9-11 happened because a group of hijackers crashed planes into buildings. Period.

Sweetnflexy - you are free to believe what you like as are all people, but I am hardly the naive one. (You're the person who thinks you stumbled onto "the truth" by watching a video on YouTube.)

The reality is that movie has been debunked countless times as any simple google search will show.

The more obvious reality is that a conspiracy on the level of 9-11 would take thousands of people to coordinate and thousands of people are not capable of keeping their mouths shut, let alone not getting caught.

I could point out a lot of other simple reasons why 9-11 was not a US government conspiracy, but it's not really worth my time.

I will add this - the fact that there are SOME people, who in their grief, are willing to lend credence to conspiracy theories does not validate the conspiracy theories.

It does say a lot about the type of people that make money by pushing conspiracy theories that feed off the delusions, in some cases, of people who have lost loved ones and are confused or bitter.

When something tragic like 9/11 happens, people want and need someone to blame. Our government is a very convenient choice, because we can't get to the people that we really want. This what terrorism does. I don't believe that I government had anything to do with the attacks that we suffered on 9/11. Were there things that they should have done differently, sure, but hindsight sight is always 20/20. For the longest time Americans never thought it could happen to us, this was a very costly wake up call to us all. No government is without some sort of corruption, but 9/11 was no inside job. Sometimes when people don't have the answers, they make up their own. Anti-government propaganda is nothing new.

I won't touch this issue with a 30-foot pole! Who knows, there are so many people with so many perspectives. All we know is what we see or hear. It all just disgusts me!

DEAR GODDDDDDDDDDDDD

Did anyone else see the special on I believe the Discovery Channel that totally disproves the ENTIRE thing??

I HAVE seen Loose Change.

I WILL say it is 150% Bull.

Sweetnflexy, I almost hope your kidding that you can be that gullible(sp?) to just watch this and go "oh man, look what our gov did!!!" COME ON.

What has the Us gained from Iraq? Not ONE drop of oil has come back, so u cant say that! We spend ALOT of money, so we definetly arent making any! Then why? Just for sh*Ts and giggles??????

Yea, it makes PERRRRRFECT sense to just blow up a couple building, kill a few, just to invade a country just for the hell of it...right...ok...

Come on!

THINK A LITTLE.

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I watched your links.. They proved my exact point. Those guys against "loose Change" look exactly like government "cover-ups" They couldn't answer any of the questions clearly.



You all can chose to remain blind and brainwashed.. I will chose the TRUTH.

By the way, "loose change" isn't a YOU TUBE video.. (brainiac).. It was a movie and part II will be out in theaters 2008. See ya!!

Ok - go with that...."the TRUTH" that you found on the internet.

The rest of us will remain brainwashed here in reality.

Nice post Hamiltmc...

Flex....


Your logic...is flawed...

WHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYY would the gov do this?!?!?!

WHAT motive??

Answer this for me please.


And if im supporting the government;
Am i a gov't cover up agent too!?!?!?!?!

Flexy said:
"By the way, "loose change" isn't a YOU TUBE video.. (brainiac).. It was a movie and part II will be out in theaters 2008. See ya!!"

YouTube, Movie, either platform showcases someone's creativity.

Just because it's a "movie" doesn't make it FACT. King Kong was a movie, but that doesn't mean I expect to see him climbing the Empire State Building anytime soon...and I'm pretty sure that Snow White didn't really meet the Seven Dwarfs and get awakened by a prince's kiss...

Many firmmakers like to make movies and present them as fact (Hello Michael Moore!), but it doesn't make it TRUTH
: )

The government ain't perfect and definetly possesses elements of corruption, but something like this, nah. Hamiltmc is right, they couldn't orchestrate and hide something this big.

I am a bit late checking in on this one but I had to give it a little thought - and that is just what I did.

Having just completed a course on the US Congress, read several accounts of several events and methods of our US government (Some I agreed with and some I didn't but backed up my disbelief with FACTS).

I thank God that we do not get ALL THE FACTS. I do not want to know exactly where our soldiers are with how much firepower, what their latest strategies are. If the media tells me, they tell the whole world - and then, can you believe it??

Has anyone seen "Lions for Lambs"? It is a movie that addresses just this. Meryl Streep plays a news reporter and Tom Cruise plays a stuffed white shirt republican who is so intent on getting popular with the people so he can be elected President that he exposes a new military strategy to the media via Streep. Streep's problem is how far should she go as a reporter: risk the safety of our soldiers in the name of informing the US people? I say "I don't want to know." If I wanted to have a say in military planning, I would be attending school for that purpose, enlisting in the military service (but they wouldn't have me - I'm too old).

SweetnFlexy: I admire your goal to speak out agains war and help rid the world of AIDS in a part of the world most stricken by this disease. Should you be in a dangerous area, I as an American citizen do not want the media telling me exactly where you are. I can reach you through pray because God knows where you are 24/7. If you get a chance, go see Lions for Lambs before you leave. It has 3 stories and one (Cruise/Streep) is exactly what your original post is about. But, you must also consider the other 2 stories. There is a lot of stuff our gov't does in the name of democracy and freedom that I disagree with. Going to the extent of 9/11 is stretching it. But, we now have evidence that someone sat on info about Pearl Harbor and it was because of that person's ego that many navy men now lay at the bottom of the Harbor. It should not have happened. Perhaps you are right, only time will tell but above all, make sure we are getting the facts and not fairy tales. good point

BSUGRAD said:
"But, we now have evidence that someone sat on info about Pearl Harbor and it was because of that person's ego that many navy men now lay at the bottom of the Harbor. It should not have happened. Perhaps you are right, only time will tell but above all, make sure we are getting the facts and not fairy tales. good point"

Last session I took an Organizational Behavior and Leadership class. We did a case study on this...and why (and unfortunately I SHOULD remember his name, but I don't) the commander did not evaluate reports as seriously that there would be an attack.

Apparently those that study organizational behavior seem to lean towards many factors. Relying too much on subordinates, and less on instincts and "going against the grain". Complacency. It was really an interesting case study. The lesson was supposed to indicate that a leader has to really weigh incoming information with what he/she knows to be true and also know when to take subordinates opinions into account/experience.

In the case of Pearl Harbor, apparently many were convinced that "it couldn't happen to us" and reports coming from HQ were not closely paid attention to as they should have been in terms of where the attack would occur.

As for us knowing everything, I agree 100%. Look at the danger Geraldo Rivera could have potentially put the troops in danger back in 2003 when he broadcast troop position.

Some things are better left unsaid. Others should be said. It comes down to a level of common sense and ethics...

I don't think it's a bad thing to have a level of mistrust about the government, but unfortunately a lot heated politics get in the middle of it and I think this clouds people's judgment (not directed at anyone here, just a societal observation in general).